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CoastalCoder 1 hours ago [-]
My dear friends to the north: I just want to repeat how sorry many of us are for this.
deeg 1 hours ago [-]
And that some of us are trying to change the situation. My reps have heard from me multiple times.
xena 1 hours ago [-]
Ah yes, strongly worded letters. That is the way to fix things. They must be trembling in fear at the weight of your words.
37 minutes ago [-]
abirch 1 hours ago [-]
I apologize as well; however, they need to diversify. They can't count on the USA.
dr_kretyn 1 hours ago [-]
These really feel hollow. Just like "thoughts and prayers." ACK.
CoastalCoder 18 seconds ago [-]
What would you consider more appropriate?
I'm not willing to start another actual civil war over Trump's presidency.
lo_fye 1 hours ago [-]
It wasn’t a surprise to us. It’s how Canadians already feel. Threaten our sovereignty and that’s what happens.
abacadaba 1 hours ago [-]
alberta can join, the rest of you we wish you luck
if global warming makes u.s. unlivable we may still need to invade eventually though, no hard feelings
nomdep 1 hours ago [-]
Your sovereignty??? Have your politicians been claiming the USA wants to invade Canada or something?
CalRobert 1 hours ago [-]
…yes? This is literally something the US administration has openly discussed.
deeg 1 hours ago [-]
I'm hoping it was sarcasm but these days you never know.
CalRobert 1 hours ago [-]
I think it’s clear we do know. It’s not.
junon 1 hours ago [-]
That is the official stance of the US president, yes.
throwatdem12311 1 hours ago [-]
Or maybe it was Trump saying multiple times that he wanted to make Canada a state?!
aggakake 1 hours ago [-]
From a Trump speech
"Canada called me a couple of weeks ago. They want to be part of it. To which I said, well, why don't you just join our country? Become 51, become the 51st state and you get it for free,"
Numerous other examples if you are honestly asking for evidence.
beardyw 13 minutes ago [-]
It takes much longer to regain trust that it takes to lose it.
CalRobert 1 hours ago [-]
Interesting that this comes as millions of Americans discover they have a claim to a Canadian passport thanks to recent rule changes. If they play they hand right (and maybe actually build housing) Canada could benefit from American brain drain.
darepublic 1 hours ago [-]
As a Canadian I feel like this country has some problems that contribute to the brain drain south. And I feel like Trump is definitely not our friend but the situation could have been helpful to stir us up to self reflection. But I fear that instead we will just try to recreate the former status quo by whatever means and call that a victory. But what it means is the inevitable decline of this country.
Kareem71 21 minutes ago [-]
As a Canadian I am afraid that the more bad behavior the USA exhibits on the world stage, the easier it becomes to scapegoat and not look within at our own problems.
It was maybe 15ish years ago when Blackberry was at its peak. A world with such a dominant tech company in Canada today seems comically impossible
CalRobert 1 hours ago [-]
If it helps, it seems like half my family (well educated US-Ian’s) have a cit0001 application in to reverse the brain drain
OutOfHere 32 minutes ago [-]
It won't be long now before the US imposes sanctions on Ottawa and funds separatist movements across Canada.
youngtaff 39 minutes ago [-]
And of course it's now flagged…
calmbonsai 1 hours ago [-]
Good. Many Canadians view Carney as a "war-time" PM and I think that's accurate.
The Trump administration has treated Canada and Canadians appallingly. It will take many years and another President, but I hope the U.S. can repair relations. The onus is on us.
Canada honored its commitments. The U.S. started this stupid trade war.
CoastalCoder 2 minutes ago [-]
I fear it's going to take more than just one other president.
Now we've all see what one bad POTUS can do to the world, and I don't know if/how/why the world would trulyove past that.
It reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode "The Shelter" [0].
It’s gonna take more than a dem POTUS sucking up to us to fix this. MAGA will outlast Trump and the everlasting threat of another lunatic Republican president doing this crap again means this isn’t going away as easily as replacing a president.
jmyeet 1 hours ago [-]
For additional context:
- Carney's Davos speech (Jan 2026) evoked "workers of the world unite" [1];
- Carney's pre-election speech (Mar 2025) claimed the old relationship with the US is over [2]; and
- Trump's handling of Canada relations, particularly with the tariff frenzy, basically ended up giving the election to Carney [3].
This administration is busy destroying the relationships and institutions that the US created for America's interests like NATO.
First off, the difference in diction between PM Mark Carney and other world leaders is startling. Clear, cogent reasoning with rhetoric meant to impart on the listener that the speaker respects them and the presentation of an actual plan instead of just concepts of one is refreshing.
Second. I've been finding it more and more difficult to communicate online with Americans or people who have succumbed to contemporary American-brained thinking. There's something corrosive about being surrounded by slurred, infantile thinking, it seems like even the most intelligent people will eventually succumb to it and regurgitate it back because they see it as the easy road and suffer no immediate consequences for doing so.
It's extremely frustrating to see this come from American oligarchs who bend the knee to a mad king with a sexual penchant for young girls. To satiate their greed people like Sam Altman and Tim Cook align themselves with the worst of American society and unctuously flatter them with gaudy bauble bribes and obsequious speeches. Sure it serves their immediate purposes but what are the long term consequences of this? Do these people realize that every time they sell a piece of their soul to increase their personal wealth it destroys a piece of their society? Do they care?
It seems like America is rudderless now, a living ghost shambling into an uncertain but terminal future. Other countries see that now and there's a strong 'if it bleeds we can kill it' vibe after watching America deplete years of missile stocks against Iran only to watch China begin to resupply Iranian stockpiles to provide the Americans with another opportunity to deplete years more.
I'm not willing to start another actual civil war over Trump's presidency.
if global warming makes u.s. unlivable we may still need to invade eventually though, no hard feelings
"Canada called me a couple of weeks ago. They want to be part of it. To which I said, well, why don't you just join our country? Become 51, become the 51st state and you get it for free,"
Numerous other examples if you are honestly asking for evidence.
It was maybe 15ish years ago when Blackberry was at its peak. A world with such a dominant tech company in Canada today seems comically impossible
The Trump administration has treated Canada and Canadians appallingly. It will take many years and another President, but I hope the U.S. can repair relations. The onus is on us.
Canada honored its commitments. The U.S. started this stupid trade war.
Now we've all see what one bad POTUS can do to the world, and I don't know if/how/why the world would trulyove past that.
It reminds me of the Twilight Zone episode "The Shelter" [0].
[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shelter_(The_Twilight_Zone... xz
- Carney's Davos speech (Jan 2026) evoked "workers of the world unite" [1];
- Carney's pre-election speech (Mar 2025) claimed the old relationship with the US is over [2]; and
- Trump's handling of Canada relations, particularly with the tariff frenzy, basically ended up giving the election to Carney [3].
This administration is busy destroying the relationships and institutions that the US created for America's interests like NATO.
[1]: https://www.weforum.org/stories/2026/01/davos-2026-special-a...
[2]: https://speakola.com/political/mark-carney-response-to-trump...
[3]: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5ypz7yx73wo
First off, the difference in diction between PM Mark Carney and other world leaders is startling. Clear, cogent reasoning with rhetoric meant to impart on the listener that the speaker respects them and the presentation of an actual plan instead of just concepts of one is refreshing.
Second. I've been finding it more and more difficult to communicate online with Americans or people who have succumbed to contemporary American-brained thinking. There's something corrosive about being surrounded by slurred, infantile thinking, it seems like even the most intelligent people will eventually succumb to it and regurgitate it back because they see it as the easy road and suffer no immediate consequences for doing so.
It's extremely frustrating to see this come from American oligarchs who bend the knee to a mad king with a sexual penchant for young girls. To satiate their greed people like Sam Altman and Tim Cook align themselves with the worst of American society and unctuously flatter them with gaudy bauble bribes and obsequious speeches. Sure it serves their immediate purposes but what are the long term consequences of this? Do these people realize that every time they sell a piece of their soul to increase their personal wealth it destroys a piece of their society? Do they care?
It seems like America is rudderless now, a living ghost shambling into an uncertain but terminal future. Other countries see that now and there's a strong 'if it bleeds we can kill it' vibe after watching America deplete years of missile stocks against Iran only to watch China begin to resupply Iranian stockpiles to provide the Americans with another opportunity to deplete years more.
Where does America go from here?